Have just been pointed to a rather amusing article on cracked.com the first bit of which reminded me of a conversation OH and others had with some anarchists at the rally against debt:

8 Historic Symbols That Mean The Opposite of What You Think

“#8. Guy Fawkes

Misunderstood By:
Anarchists, 4Chan.

Despite anarchists’ general failure to unite long enough to make any meaningful progress against their ideological enemies (democracy, capitalism, communism and Internet forum moderationism), they do have a few running themes and symbols in common. One of the most prominent symbols is the 17th century English revolutionary, Guy Fawkes, whose famed exploit was his attempt to blow up Parliament in order to destabilize the British government.

The comparison is probably most recognizable to popular culture as the basis of the graphic novel/box office catastrophe V For Vendetta, in which a dude dresses up like Fawkes and brings down an evil dystopian theocracy. In recent years, through some bizarre online game of Chinese whispers, Fawkes has also come to somehow represent Internet teenagers’ struggle against Scientology.

While anarchists may be right that Fawkes was the only person ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions, they’ve forgotten what those intentions were. Fawkes wasn’t trying to destroy an evil theocracy, he was trying to install one.

Fawkes was a fighter for Spain and the Catholic Church. His goal was to end the slightly more egalitarian Protestant revolution in England by restoring Catholic domination. If the Gunpowder Plot had actually succeeded, Britain would probably look less like an anarchist commune and more like the fascist police state Alan Moore warned us about.”

The rest are worth reading as well enjoy.

 

hat mask and gloves Whilst it’s still the season for running around in silly masks and costumes, I thought I’d link to this rather excellent article by Leg Iron concerning the nature of Guy Fawkes masks. Leg Iron touches on something I’ll happily whinge about for ages in that the use of the Guy Fawkes symbolism for all manners of protest dilutes it’s meaning and power (much like there now being a ribbon for everything). I did say whilst on the walk with OH the other day that if anyone asks what I was protesting I’d claim I was for the restoration of the Catholic Monarchy, after all that’s what the Gun Powder conspirators were after. Equally valid to my mind would be to claim that I was recalling one of the most famous attempt at treason in our history and using that as a means to the ongoing treasonous acts being carried out in the houses of Parliament today. Sadly it would seem that many people running around in Guy Fawkes masks are ignorant of the history (and rhymes) behind it (The anarchists(tm) counter protesting at the rally against debt insisted they Gunpowder plotters were anarchists not papists). Whilst such ignorance would be understandable out in the colonies* it is less so here.

Maybe they view them as “V for vendetta” masks, which has a related but different symbolism**, but even there I have a suspicion they may have missed the point. Unless I very much misunderstood the film the main themes seemed to be that of personal vengeance and the over throw of an authoritarian government. Now in places they seem to have got the hang of the last theme, though in the UK a lot of them seemed quite quiet about the expenses scandals, and the amount of money being given to big business until Labour lost power (which might make the cynical amongst you wonder if they actually have the same problem with a controlling government that V potentially did). The protests today are mainly focussed on various Governments imposing more controls on all manner of people, , rather than fighting against a Government that has too much power they seem to be arguing endlessly for more Government power to do the sort of thing they approve of (what ever that may be). To borrow from the film they want to get rid of the current “Adam Sutler”s to put their own “Adam Sutler” in place. It is possible though that they take the imagery from the original book and are trying to create an anarchist state (though calling for more Government intervention would seem an odd way to do it). It rather leaves it s a symbol so diluted in much of it’s use that it’s become meaningless – meaning everything to everyone it ends up meaning nothing. Which is really rather a shame as it had a lot going for it. Scarlet Standard is far more generous to them, but highlights many of the problems I have and leaves me still with the question of if they don’t have any clear demands how will they know when they’re met and how will the politicians know what is actually being asked of them? A protest of “down with that sort of thing” will have difficulty achieving anything, except maybe helping the state get practised at how to deal with this sort of thing.

i almost forgot I can’t leave this without touching on the incoherent article on V-Masks from the BBC, which has this following classic bit of research:
“Early in the book V destroys the Houses of Parliament by blowing it up,”
Would would think maybe the researcher hasn’t watched the film to know it was the Old Bailey that was blown up near the start of the film ,but as they later went on to say:
“The film of V for Vendetta ends with an image of a crowd of Londoners all wearing Guy Fawkes masks, unarmed and marching on parliament.”

so no marks for the sub editors either, they do make the rather interesting comparison of the V-masks and Che t-shirts which is probably fair as neither has much to do with historical figures. I think I rather like the creator of the mask though as they observe that it’s a fundamentally violent image and even better for my money:
“The idea of the V mask being appropriated as a political symbol is inherently ridiculous”
though I’d argue that the same may not be quite so true of the imagery of Guy Fawkes, which maybe just indicates that it’s worth keeping the two separate (as much as such a thing is possible).

* I’m sure there may be better collective nouns but..
** The film really mangles the original Guy Fawkes motives:
“a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November for ever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives”
Quite frankly that’s nonsense, they didn’t really care about the date it was just when Parliament resumed and it had little to do with freedom, justice and fairness so much as the restoration of a Catholic power upon the throne. As long as it was a papist being unjust and unfair they were quite happy for things to carry on pretty much as was. Social campaigners they weren’t.

 

All activities monitored by video camera Another November the 5th gone and another “quiet” walk around London with the indomitable Old Holborn, Olly Cromwell, Katabasis and others whose presence has been erased by alcohol (remind me if you want) – which was an utter blast. As has become our want we met in the pleasing environs of Chandos to exchange niceties, don costumes and imbibe a bracing drink before braving the autumnal air. Our dapper and well presented crew headed off down Whitehall, pausing to admire the security in place at that bastion of democracy that is Downing street. Setting the theme for the day they didn’t seem pleased to see us, undeterred we continued unto the very doors of the palace of Westminster where some terribly nice people told us that as the politicans don’t work on a Saturday it’d cost us 15 quid a head to get in:
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At a lose end today? Why not toddle along to a nice little pub (Chandos) just off Trafalgar square to go for a bracing walk around Westminster, with Old Holborn and a bunch of like minded bloggers, libertarians and other ne’er do wells that are concerned with the way civil liberties are being eroded in this country and Governmental power is being given up to the poorly democratic EU.

Hopefully see you there, Guy Fawkes outfit strongly encouraged :)

Full report later, once I’m back and sober.

 

A little early but start the day as you mean to go on I say:

 

Following in from my recent post about the joys of a bracing walk in early November, I’m delighted to report that Old Holborn will be chaperoning like minded people around Westminster.

Details over on FaceBook

“It would be a shame to let a November 5th pass without protest at that most sacred of institutions, the Royal Palace of Westminster, so I have decided that this years protest WILL take place.

For those who are unaccustomed to my November 5th walks, it involves large amounts of beer, Guy Fawkes costumes, a great deal of humour and a willingness to poke the great and the good on their own turf. no one usually gets arrested, although we all usually get stopped and searched, giving us all the perfect opportunity to show that we know our rights and tell those who would usurp them where to get off – “no officer, you may not detain me”.

Past walks have been a great chance for likeminded Libertarian or anarchist individuals to meet up and of course, as this time it falls on a Saturday, you’ll have no excuse to confuse tourists, test your law skills, upset the ground staff at Hogwarts, get in the paper and on the tellybox and show that you care a little for the abuse of our rights and freedoms by the 650 idiots who pretend to act in our name and with our mandate.

So it’s time to dig out the V for Vendetta masks (or a Burqa – try removing that, Constable) and meet up with me to discuss how we continue to be the thorn in side of those who would be our masters, using money taken by force from us, the people.

Meet Saturday November 5th, 11am, Chandos Pub (cheap ale), Trafalgar Square, London.”

Hope to see you there.

 

Fawkes thinkingMy recent post about the state of affairs in Whitby reminded me that just after the Whitby Goth weekend is another day when I tend to dress up and go around looking silly. By which of course I’m referring to the now traditional* walk around Westminster in the guise of Guy Fawkes. Hopefully Old Holborn will lead the way again, as he much better at it than I. But regardless come November the 5th I shall be wandering around Westminster in costume, as the powers that be don’t seem to be slowing down in destroying our liberties. After all with people being prosecuted for covering their faces in public in France and Belgium, and laws to let the police remove face coverings being mooted in the UK following the London looting – who knows how long we’ll be able to wander around the place in fancy dress?

So for that reason alone plus all the ones I’ve muttered about previously I’ll be going for a walk again this year. So it’d be rather jolly if other people felt like joining me (and hopefully OH, he’s far more dapper than I)for a healthy stroll, in the manner of political litmus paper. If people are interested I do have a plan to push this a bit more than just here**, but it will really only work if other people are involved. Either way all will be unveiled soon, but do drop me a line if you’re curious/interested.

* It’s happened 3 years in a row, that makes it tradition in my book.
** And I will be plugging the walk quite a bit here as it’s more fun to go walking with company.

 

I’m afraid I must indulge in that most terrible of things, a blog post about blogging. Having had to think about why I joined OH on hist first little stroll and why I continued almost on my own the other day I also started to think about why I’m writing here and what I want to achieve with both of them if anything.

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All activities are subject to video surveliance So yesterday being the 5th of November, or if you prefer Traitors day, I toddled down to a certain central London public house along with two friends who’d come down from up north to join like minded people to go for a little walk as I’d done on previous years.

So having seated ourselves with a small beer we proceeded to wait with the expectation of other people turning up, a mask casually lying in front of us to help with recognition. The weather outside being inclement we suspected that it might be a low turn out, but midday came and went (the traditional time for walking) and no one turned up. This was awkward as we had no rose and I’d no plan, but none the less we sallied forth, myself in the lead as I’d done it before and besides ?I had both a sign and a better mask. My compatriots having decorated their masks themselves and done sterling job. So off we toddled towards Whitehall (personally hoping that we’d see other like glad people so I could slink away from the limelight (such as it is)) – but no joy and the rain wasn’t improving. I called for a pause to do up my coat and to come up with a plan – both having being achieved we headed off once more. Strolling down Whitehall we made our way past some slightly concerned looking police at Downing street. We did a slight circuit of Parliament Square, observing that the camp which had caused such consternation due to it’s spoiling the enjoyment of the square for other people had been replaced by two sets of concentric fences with guards in the middle making the square harder to see and impossible to enjoy. A few tents clung to this perimeter, so there are still camps, you can hardly see the square and no-one can enjoy it at all; bit of a win all round that I really must inquire of Messrs Dale and Johnson as to how the view the current situation.

Onwards to Parliament where we admired the wonderful security barriers before stopping outside the gates to pay a respectful one minutes silence to our lost liberties. By the end of the minute the smiling policeman at the gate was smiling less and talking concernedly into his radio – we departed before discovering who he was talking to. Back up Whitehall we walked the rain slowly lessening, pausing only to enjoy the British Legions piper and acquire poppies as I’d left without one. We returned to the very fine public house to replenish ourselves pausing only for a few photographs requested by passing tourists.

We later failed to find the Westminster’s bikers demo as I got the time wrong.

Despite the very low turn out I’m once more glad to have gone for this little walk, as it was still most educational. Amongst the many things I learnt where:

  • My video skills suck
  • Holding even a small video camera up whilst walking for 40 minutes or so is oddly tiring
  • There are a lot of men in suits around Whitehall that really don’t like video cameras pointing at them
  • Wearing a sign and having just a few companions can make a success out of a walk and save me from wussing out
  • I really don’t like leading this sort of thing

So to the future, I’ll be back next year and the year after and… regardless but with a better plan and having done better at letting people know it’s going on. I still think it’s worthwhile, it may not achieve much but I can work on that we got good reactions and attracted attention and may even have made a few people think. I need to decide a clear set of criteria both for why I’m walking and for what I hope to achieve, which I think I have but more on that later.

If I can salvage anything watchable from the video of the walk I’ll post it up later.

So if you were there and I missed you I’m terribly sorry and if you weren’t there hopefully see you next year. Meantime I have plans…

 

Remember remember

It’s that time of year again, when the leaves are turning golden, soft golden sun washes across meadows glad in the wisps of morning mists. In such a season what could be better than to go for a gentle stroll with other like minded people?

Of course those that have never joined in on such a pleasant perambulation, accuse a group of masked anonymous individuals of self aggrandizement (presumably because of our boasts of going for little walks in the vaunted halls of the blogosphere). They also say we’re not actually doing anything, presumably because they believe we’re not achieving anything, well to such nay sayers I would but echo anothers words and observe that the walk is for our benefit. Except that that wouldn’t be entirely true. Our quiet and eccentric even foolish (and hence very British) marking of the parlous state of our government and the cheapness with which they hold our hard won liberties does achieve something. We get to talk to people, to share ideas and maybe to plant the idea that perhaps something can be done, perhaps it’s worth trying to make a change – but also we get to stand up and in a very small way show that not all of the populous is happy. From comments we got last year there is at least sympathy with our walk amongst the legendary “man on the street”.

So all that said hopefully I shall see some of you on the 5th for a gentle stroll.

P.S. As always the advice is don’t bring ID or traceable mobile phones.

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