So having avoided the computer quite well for the last four days I thought I’d just pop back briefly to hope you all had a wonderful time, doing what ever it is people do these days. Also as I have a penchant for obscure and forgotten holy days/festivals I would observes that today is the feat of the Holy Innocents, in honour of which was written what I think is one of the most beautiful English hymns (not strictly a carol). So hear for you delectation is the Westminster Cathedral Choir singing the Coventry Carol. Enjoy – normal lack of service will resume shortly.

 

hat mask and gloves Whilst it’s still the season for running around in silly masks and costumes, I thought I’d link to this rather excellent article by Leg Iron concerning the nature of Guy Fawkes masks. Leg Iron touches on something I’ll happily whinge about for ages in that the use of the Guy Fawkes symbolism for all manners of protest dilutes it’s meaning and power (much like there now being a ribbon for everything). I did say whilst on the walk with OH the other day that if anyone asks what I was protesting I’d claim I was for the restoration of the Catholic Monarchy, after all that’s what the Gun Powder conspirators were after. Equally valid to my mind would be to claim that I was recalling one of the most famous attempt at treason in our history and using that as a means to the ongoing treasonous acts being carried out in the houses of Parliament today. Sadly it would seem that many people running around in Guy Fawkes masks are ignorant of the history (and rhymes) behind it (The anarchists(tm) counter protesting at the rally against debt insisted they Gunpowder plotters were anarchists not papists). Whilst such ignorance would be understandable out in the colonies* it is less so here.

Maybe they view them as “V for vendetta” masks, which has a related but different symbolism**, but even there I have a suspicion they may have missed the point. Unless I very much misunderstood the film the main themes seemed to be that of personal vengeance and the over throw of an authoritarian government. Now in places they seem to have got the hang of the last theme, though in the UK a lot of them seemed quite quiet about the expenses scandals, and the amount of money being given to big business until Labour lost power (which might make the cynical amongst you wonder if they actually have the same problem with a controlling government that V potentially did). The protests today are mainly focussed on various Governments imposing more controls on all manner of people, , rather than fighting against a Government that has too much power they seem to be arguing endlessly for more Government power to do the sort of thing they approve of (what ever that may be). To borrow from the film they want to get rid of the current “Adam Sutler”s to put their own “Adam Sutler” in place. It is possible though that they take the imagery from the original book and are trying to create an anarchist state (though calling for more Government intervention would seem an odd way to do it). It rather leaves it s a symbol so diluted in much of it’s use that it’s become meaningless – meaning everything to everyone it ends up meaning nothing. Which is really rather a shame as it had a lot going for it. Scarlet Standard is far more generous to them, but highlights many of the problems I have and leaves me still with the question of if they don’t have any clear demands how will they know when they’re met and how will the politicians know what is actually being asked of them? A protest of “down with that sort of thing” will have difficulty achieving anything, except maybe helping the state get practised at how to deal with this sort of thing.

i almost forgot I can’t leave this without touching on the incoherent article on V-Masks from the BBC, which has this following classic bit of research:
“Early in the book V destroys the Houses of Parliament by blowing it up,”
Would would think maybe the researcher hasn’t watched the film to know it was the Old Bailey that was blown up near the start of the film ,but as they later went on to say:
“The film of V for Vendetta ends with an image of a crowd of Londoners all wearing Guy Fawkes masks, unarmed and marching on parliament.”

so no marks for the sub editors either, they do make the rather interesting comparison of the V-masks and Che t-shirts which is probably fair as neither has much to do with historical figures. I think I rather like the creator of the mask though as they observe that it’s a fundamentally violent image and even better for my money:
“The idea of the V mask being appropriated as a political symbol is inherently ridiculous”
though I’d argue that the same may not be quite so true of the imagery of Guy Fawkes, which maybe just indicates that it’s worth keeping the two separate (as much as such a thing is possible).

* I’m sure there may be better collective nouns but..
** The film really mangles the original Guy Fawkes motives:
“a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November for ever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives”
Quite frankly that’s nonsense, they didn’t really care about the date it was just when Parliament resumed and it had little to do with freedom, justice and fairness so much as the restoration of a Catholic power upon the throne. As long as it was a papist being unjust and unfair they were quite happy for things to carry on pretty much as was. Social campaigners they weren’t.

 

Over in Ireland they are apparently going to remove the legal protection afforded to things told in the confessional – for the sake of the children of course. At the moment it’s just in the case of someone confessing to “sexual abuse” where there is planned to be mandatory reporting required.

Now I’d hope that the Irish clergy will have the courage of their convictions and not break the seal of the confessional and suffer prison terms if it comes to that as from a religious point of view that it s the correct thing to do. Now that priests will have to report such things is the headline but the BBC goes on to say:

“Anyone who fails to declare information about the abuse of a child could face a prison term of five years.”

If that’s actually accurate then that also covers solicitors and therapists and doctors, who if I recall correctly also don’t have to pass on information to the authorities if told about wrong doing by their clients – and that phrasing covers far more than outright confessions. The whole privileged information thing, and that smaller note seems to me to be a whole thin end of a wedge type thing. After all once it’s established that one sort of crime is worthy of breaking the various long held rules of confidentiality a degree of mission creep would seem rather inevitable. So mandatory reporting of all offences, and with a five year penalty for not reporting probably best to report anything even said in jest just in case it turns out not to have been a joke.

If it flies in Ireland, anyone want to hazard a guess as to how quickly it’ll be tried over here?

 

This post has been stumbling around my head for a while now, like a drunk goth trying to find their way out of an unfamiliar club – but thanks to a couple of posts from Captain Ranty (one of which has been removed but I saw by the wonders of RSS and the other of which is here) my thoughts seem to have stumbled in a rather dazed fashion into a semblance of coherence. I’m afraid this article is going to be about religion and worse than that Catholicism and the Pope – and if that wasn’t bad enough I’m not even going to bash them that much. So now you’ve been duly warned I’ll not be at all offended if you skip this, and my normal ramblings will resume in due course.

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Having recently been reading all sorts of things on the freeman of the land and lawful rebellion front, it occurred to me that some people might also be interested in the obscure but much simpler method for formally leaving the Roman Catholic church. As they count you as a member unless you convert to another faith and even then sometimes. The whole idea of being “lapsed” is somewhat of a myth. So here for those that are interested are two rather useful links.

Firstly we have a Vatican document discussing just what the criteria are for someone to formally renounce their faith. The second a rather handy Irish website that has put the whole three step process On line.

 

A bit late to the party with this one, and not that much to add except that when it comes to the Swiss passing a law to ban minarets we should remove the beam in our own eye rather than worrying about the mote in another countries.

For a bit of background as this is rather late after the immediate fuss has died down, the Swiss have decided that four minarets is quite enough and they’d not like any more. As far as I can tell they don’t care who wants to build them or why. Generally speaking I’m with Archbishop Cranmer on this one in thinking it a lot of fuss about not much. The Swiss from what I can gather are quite keen on restricting all sorts of things, but seem to be generally o.k. with this so that they choose to ban a specific architectural feature currently popular with a particular sect isn’t really a big deal. But segments of our press and commentariate seem to thing it’s a horrible beastly thing ushering in a new age of intolerance. Which just makes me wonder why these same people are quite happy that closer to home there is specific legislation preventing a specific religious group from naming their places of worship as they see fit, from it’s followers holding the same jobs as those of other religions are allowed and even from using traditional methods for summoning it’s devotees to prayer.

This disparity was raised in Parliament as recently as 2007, but at the time many people who are now upset with the Swiss were inclined to dismiss it as unimportant, due to the small scale of people it. The Swiss action which affected about 5% of the population caused Amnesty international to warn that violated freedom of religion but are oddly quiet on laws in this country which actually mention a religion explicitly rather than being confined to an architectural feature. Why are they not then up in arms about existing laws which are explicitly targeting a single relgion but are instead happy for this government to be merely ‘“ready to consider” changing the law‘?

If I were of a cynical mind I would have to wonder if the specific religions invovled in both incidents is what makes the difference? Though of course the more likely explanation is that a new law in another country is far more exciting than repealing old unjust laws close to home. that however doesn’t make it any less hypocritical.

Update A Guest post on More to life than shoes gives a Swiss take on thier view on the recent vote.

 

Via Archbishop Cranmer I discover that Roman Catholic bishops in New Zealand are to introduce swine flu precautions, though they don’t seem to have gone as far as Patrick O’Donoghue, the Bishop of Lancaster. As a very lapsed papist I find their lack of both faith and any trace of common sense quite disturbing.

Reportedly the Bishops are :
stopping parishioners receiving communion wafers on the tongue, communion wine from the chalice and from shaking hands at the sign of peace at masses in New Zealand.
Now apart from the odd lack of faith that worries about diseases being communicated via the sacraments, and I don’t recall any such precautions been taken during the AIDs scares in the 80′s. But that aide the actual risk of infection by any of these methods is so minuscule that it must surely be better to let people decide their own risk level rather than encourage communities to view each other as deadly germ factories.

Looking at each of these measures in turn:

  • receiving communion wafers on the tongue – For those that don’t know this works by your sticking your tongue out at the priest and he places a communion wafer/slice of bread on your tongue. In many communities it’s quite unusual to receive communion this way. But the only obvious transmission vectors I can see are either, you sneeze on the priest a risk no matter how you receive, or the some part of the priests hand touches your tongue and than transports your germs to the next person. Now normally that doesn’t happen but if it did the priest could quite easily wipe his hands between people, and given the tiny amount of saliva that could be transferred this way if ti was a substantial risk every Catholic community would be decimated by every cold or flu that came around.
  • communion wine from the chalice – Again for those that don’t know this is just what it seems you all take a sip of wine from a shared cup. The alternatives to this are no communion wine or you dip the communion wafer in the wine and then place the dipped bread onto the communicants tongue (which item one rules out). So broadly speaking this rules out half the sacrament, though liturgically it isn’t a required part. Here I can refer to groups that have looked at the matter in more detail than I such as the Orthodox church in America and Dr. Greg Kenyon M.D. who both conclude the chances are tiny and you’re more likely to get infected from your local restaurant. As with the communion wafer the transmission vector is most likely to be saliva which isn’t terribly good at such things.
  • Finally shaking hands at the sign of peace this is exactly what it seems, you shake hands with those around you. Who if your church has much of a sense of community you probably know and will have either shaken hands with them on the way in or will do so on the way out (or in the pub afterwards). Everything stated about risk vectors previously applies here and can you think of any better way of killing any community spirit than by telling people to be afraid to shake hands with their neighbour?

Surely it would have been far better for the Bishops to have told people to use their own judgement, but maybe to have suggested to people generally and especially those that are feeling a bit poorly to try not to sneeze or cough over the sacraments, priests or fellow parishioners. Maybe go so far as to suggest applying a bit of soap and water to ones hands before mass might not be a bad idea? Whilst neither article says I would presume from their fear over communion that the Bishops have also cancelled all bake sales, coffee mornings and any other social activity which might cause physical contact between their flock.

I have been lapsed for quite a while now, and my theological studies were never that deep, so I apologise in advance for any misrepresentation of the Roman Catholic Church or the Bishops I may have made. But really such scaremongering amongst those with a calling to guide and protect their congregation beggars belief.

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