More demo’s on the 31st

As I mentioned a little while ago a rather dubious organization is planning a “procession” to call for the over throw of the government, monarchy and democracy in this country. The views of this group are rather unsurprisingly not widely supported being as they are just a few noisy extreme Muslims, however the march is significant so again unsurprisingly there is now a counter demonstration being organized by Muslims4UK, and British Muslims for Secular Democracy. Hopefully this will be a much larger demonstration, especially if those of us who are also rather against the ideas behind the initial “procession” turn up to be counted as well, as we have been invited to do.

Date: Saturday Oct 31 2009
Time: 13,00 to 16.00
Venue: Piccadilly Circus

(I sadly won’t be there due to being a few hundred miles away but I will be back for the 5th).

One thing though that may make this counter demonstration somewhat fraught or at least interesting is that the EDL seem to have changed their minds and despite initially saying that they were not counter demonstrating against Islam4UK they now are. Which may lead to some tension as the Muslims4UK group are against the EDL as much as they’re against the Islam4UK group saying:

“to the EDL: You do not represent English people. You are clearly looking to incite trouble.”

So with them both in the same place protesting against the same other group of protesters it may as I say become interesting. With luck it may become interesting in a positive way, with reconciliation of differences and increased understanding brought about by a shared opponent.

just to round things off the EDL have a promo video for their demo which as some very stirring music but really isn’t nearly as nice as the promo video made by
British Muslims for Secular Democracy under the moniker of SecularDemocracy.org

So if I could make it I’d be with the group with the amusing signs.

Update Facebook event here

WTF! no really I mean it

It seems as though all those conspiracy theories about mass immigration being a deliberate policy to change the culture of the UK may have had a point. According to a report in the Telegraph (hat tip to Iain Dale)

He wrote: “Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.

“I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn’t its main purpose – to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.”

Currently I’m not angry about this, I’m still going WTF! The idea that there could be even a grain of truth in this, that any government could even briefly thing that such a policy was in anyway a good idea. Especially as from tales from some immigrants that arrived here to work and marry and form a life it seems that they must have had a very specific idea of which immigrants and what sort of diversity they wanted. So really what on earth where they thinking?

For now I’m going to go to bed, and hope that when I get up in the morning this will prove to be a bad dream or a hoax or something. On the off chance that it isn’t Leg Iron has a more coherent response and possible reasons (I think the David Icke being right theory may make the most sense).I expect there wil be some choice words over in the comments at Old Holborns

I am more than a little pissed off at the possibility that there’s even a grain of truth in any of this.

24 hours left on petition

I know it won’t do any good, but the petition that our glorious leader should resign has only 24 hours left to go.

It’s still the most popular petition on the Number 10 website, but with so little time left if you’ve not signed it yet you’d best hurry. You can sign it here.