Corbyn vote remain because Labour is useless

Corbyn for EUI may be missing something here, I often am, but as far as I can see Mr Corbyns calls to remain in the EU to protect workers rights is basically an admission that Labour are useless, will never be in power again or won’t protect workers rights if they are. some of you may think I’ve lost the plot here, but bear with me. The day after a Leave vote not a single UK law will be repealed or changed, in fact not a single UK law will be repealed or changed without the say so of Parliament. Now that being the case, unless action is taken to change things all of the legal protection that workers currently have under UK law we’ll still have after we leave the EU until such a time as Parliament changes things. Currently the Tories don’t have a huge majority so can be defeated, and there’s no reason why the next government will also be Tory. Now obviously Mr Corbyn is worried about the Conservatives undoing all of the good things that he feels the EU has done. However that can only happen if the Conservatives are in power and get the relevant acts passed, and even if they get the relevant acts passed a future Labour government could just put the statutes back (yeah I know they’ve got a terrible track record at that). So lets assume that we leave the EU, and the current government starts trying to remove workers rights a few things have to happen. Firstly obviously the current government would have to get such changes through both houses subject to the usual processes and opposition, Mr Corbyn’s statements indicate that he doesn’t feel that the current opposition would be able to prevent this.

Now the current government having got rid of all these wonderful EU inspired workers rights, as well as handling all of the hassle that leaving the EU has caused, will be up for election in 2020. At that point Labour could quite easily stand on a platform of reinstating all of the wonderful EU legislation that the previous government had repealed/changed. That this doesn’t seem to be presented as a possibility by Mr Corbyn, no talk of fights to keep these rights or future fights to restore them just “if we leave the EU these are lost” – so one must assume that he doesn’t imagine that there will be a Labour government soon or that if there is one it won’t see reinstating such rights as a priority. Surely promising to fight to restore any lost rights in the event of a Brexit would be a vote winner? Or is it more the case that he thinks that the British public don’t actually support these rights as much as he does, and wouldn’t vote to restore them so he requires the EU to override the democratically expressed wishes of the people?

This also holds true for pretty much any rights, protections etc. that people will claim we’ll lose by leaving the EU, we can only lose them if the UK government removes them despite opposition and if no future government restores them. So vote remain if you think the policies you want to implement are so unpopular the British populace will never vote for them.

Brexit pledges all bollox

In the run up to the EU referendum I can’t help but notice that both sides have spent an awful lot of effort in pledging that if we vote leave/remain then this that or the other will happen. They’ve also spent about as much time rubbishing the pledges made by the other side. A quick search of the news shows how much time and effort has been spent making and reporting on these pledges. Now in many things with regards to the EU referendum we simply don’t know what will happen, we have some guesses in the short term but long know one has a clue what will actually happen just guesses. However all these pledges they’re a different category of thing, we can safely say that they are all utter stuff and nonsense and should be ignored. Why can we say this? Simply because neither the “Leave” nor “Remain” are the government of the day, nor will they form the government after the referendum. Whilst they may have their figures right (though that’s unlikely) neither side has any control over how the Government of the day will handle things. The day after the referendum no matter what the result, neither campaign is going to suddenly be in power so neither side can say what the government will do.

So ignore the “Pledges” and claims about what the government will do following a vote to Leave/Remain it’s all utter bollox – as it won’t be in the hands of either campaign group. All they can do is suggest possible scenarios that could happen, depending on how the rest of the world reacts and what the government of the day (which won’t be them) decides to do.

Nice economy shame if anything were to happen to it

EU Mobster Time and again I hear that if we were to leave the EU our economy would suffer. Now that in it self is a reasonable enough argument but almost always one of the reasons given for our economy suffering is that the EU would punish us for leaving. By way of example :
“Project fear is a fitting name you should be fucking terrified”
“The EU member states (France and Germany especially) know this, and will be out to punish us, they will want nothing more than to watch us have 3 years where we trash our economy, only to come crawling back with our tail between our legs. They will want us to serve as an example of the damaging stupidity leaving the EU entails, so they can quell the Right Wing uprising that is currently gaining traction across all of Europe.”

Yep the main reason given for our economy suffering when we leave the EU is that the EU will do everything they can to make sure that it does to serve as a warning to others. Is that not the very definition of a protection racket and the behaviour of mobsters and bullies since time began? So the argument is actually:
“The EU is a protection racket and if we leave we’ll be made an example”
I kind of thought we had in Britain a tradition of standing up to bullies and tyrants, that we’d learnt a long time ago that paying Dene geld is always too high a price to pay. However if we have slid so far that we’re once again prepared to pay Dene geld then lets at least be honest about it and admit we’re giving in to bullies and tyrants.