Reasons to vote Brexit – 1, 2, 3

With apologies to the late, great Ian Dury for the title, I thought I might lay out why I’m in favour of leaving the EU as a matter of record and with no hope nor intention of trying to convince anyone else. I will warn you know this post is probably going to ramble quite a bit as the question of whether to leave the EU or not isn’t in some ways the simplest of things. I should observe to begin with that I’m a bit of an idealist, with classic liberal leanings and a tendency to min-archism.

So as people who’ve read this blog or follow me on facebook/twitter I’m quite firmly of the opinion that we should leave the EU. Please note that that’s the EU, not Europe, not EFTA not the EEA or anything else just the EU. This distinction has been clouded quite a bit by both sides but mainly by the remain camp. We’re part of Europe geographically, mainland Europe will be our neighbours no matter how we vote, so the idea that we’ll stop trading or co-operating with them is laughable at best. but on that note lets start by looking at the economic argument – first and foremost both sides are making meaningless pledges and the experts are guessing as much as us – because there is no precedent to base any prediction on. However lets put that aside, lets assume that leaving the EU will have bad economic consequences for at least the medium term – that’s no reason not to leave. I find it amazing that people that normally argue that there is a social aspect to wealth creation are now just all about the financial consequences. I’m also horrified that this nation has been so reduced that economics trumps all, abolishing the slave trade wasn’t a smart move economically but it was the right thing to do, giving everyone the vote cost money but was the right thing to do. The UK has a proud history of doing the right thing regardless of the cost, so to bow now before mere financial pragmatism is a betrayal of a long history and a sorry state of affairs.

The other argument I see a lot of is that there are many problems facing the world, that require global solutions. If this is this really the case, and in many instances it may well be, then why do we want to lock ourselves into a regional body diminishing our voice? Surely to tackle global problems we should be sat at the global table speaking clearly and leading the way to solve those problems? Not merging our voice into a single muted EU voice? If we agree with the EU position why would we want to reduce our vote and voice by letting the EU speak for the entire continent when we could be making additional arguments in support of the EU’s position or even arguing for even stronger action? If the problems are global then the right place to talk about them is globally not regionally in the EU.

When it comes to laws and regulations, there is nothing to stop us adopting things the EU do that we think are good, but again increasingly in a global market the EU is just rubber stamping global decisions. So why do we need the EU as a middle man when we have a place on the one global bodies could influence the decisions there and no depend on the EU to speak for us and to duplicate the same rules? Leave argue that far too many of our rules come from the EU, which is a good reason to leave, remain argue they don’t so what’s the advantage of staying if the EU has so little influence on us?

The UK is a net contributor to the EU, so everything around the UK that was “EU funded” could have been funded by the UK directly with less administrative drag. It’s just that success governments of all flavours haven’t done so, which is a UK problem not an EU solution. The EU is just painting over the issue and using expensive paint to do so.

All of the things the EU is alleged to improve turn out to be ways of either side stepping Westminster or being an expensive middleman between global bodies and local implementation. If there are problems in Westminster we should solve them there, not count on a top heavy EU to do the work for us. If things need to be solved at a global level we should be working there not muting our voices in an EU committee. On numerous matters of human rights and social justice the UK has been and is a world leader with the EU holding us back, no minimum wage in the EU, tax on tampons and energy enforced by the EU.

There is nothing to stop the UK co-operating with the rest of the world on any matter we choose, from pollution to terrorism to human rights, we don’t need the EU to do this for us. We could open our borders to the entire world rather than just the Eu if we went our own way, rather than being held back to a parochial protectionist world view by the EU. We could open our trad to the third world rather than imposing import tariffs on them, we could provide aid to the other countries with out the cost of EU bureaucracy. There is nothing that the EU does that we can’t on do on our own faster, better and more efficiently. The only reason to think we can’t is if you think that the UK electorate won’t support it and that the UK Government is beyond redemption. If you think that how do you ever imagine that the Eu can be improved or that the EU electorate is any better, except that they’ll hold us down in a numbing bog of mediocrity, where nothing much bad happens but neither does anything much good – whilst the rest of the world moves one.

So if you have no confidence in your fellow country men, no confidence in changing your Government and think that adding extra layers of bureaucracy and state control can actually improve matters then by all means vote to remain part of the EU. If on the other hand, you thing that we should be outward looking to the entire world, tackling global problems at a global level and can lead the way by example in matters from technology, to the environment to human rights then I’d suggest to you that we should leave the parochial inward lookign bureaucratic EU and resume our place at the global tables trading and working with the entire world not just our nearest neighbours.

Corbyn vote remain because Labour is useless

Corbyn for EUI may be missing something here, I often am, but as far as I can see Mr Corbyns calls to remain in the EU to protect workers rights is basically an admission that Labour are useless, will never be in power again or won’t protect workers rights if they are. some of you may think I’ve lost the plot here, but bear with me. The day after a Leave vote not a single UK law will be repealed or changed, in fact not a single UK law will be repealed or changed without the say so of Parliament. Now that being the case, unless action is taken to change things all of the legal protection that workers currently have under UK law we’ll still have after we leave the EU until such a time as Parliament changes things. Currently the Tories don’t have a huge majority so can be defeated, and there’s no reason why the next government will also be Tory. Now obviously Mr Corbyn is worried about the Conservatives undoing all of the good things that he feels the EU has done. However that can only happen if the Conservatives are in power and get the relevant acts passed, and even if they get the relevant acts passed a future Labour government could just put the statutes back (yeah I know they’ve got a terrible track record at that). So lets assume that we leave the EU, and the current government starts trying to remove workers rights a few things have to happen. Firstly obviously the current government would have to get such changes through both houses subject to the usual processes and opposition, Mr Corbyn’s statements indicate that he doesn’t feel that the current opposition would be able to prevent this.

Now the current government having got rid of all these wonderful EU inspired workers rights, as well as handling all of the hassle that leaving the EU has caused, will be up for election in 2020. At that point Labour could quite easily stand on a platform of reinstating all of the wonderful EU legislation that the previous government had repealed/changed. That this doesn’t seem to be presented as a possibility by Mr Corbyn, no talk of fights to keep these rights or future fights to restore them just “if we leave the EU these are lost” – so one must assume that he doesn’t imagine that there will be a Labour government soon or that if there is one it won’t see reinstating such rights as a priority. Surely promising to fight to restore any lost rights in the event of a Brexit would be a vote winner? Or is it more the case that he thinks that the British public don’t actually support these rights as much as he does, and wouldn’t vote to restore them so he requires the EU to override the democratically expressed wishes of the people?

This also holds true for pretty much any rights, protections etc. that people will claim we’ll lose by leaving the EU, we can only lose them if the UK government removes them despite opposition and if no future government restores them. So vote remain if you think the policies you want to implement are so unpopular the British populace will never vote for them.

Brexit pledges all bollox

In the run up to the EU referendum I can’t help but notice that both sides have spent an awful lot of effort in pledging that if we vote leave/remain then this that or the other will happen. They’ve also spent about as much time rubbishing the pledges made by the other side. A quick search of the news shows how much time and effort has been spent making and reporting on these pledges. Now in many things with regards to the EU referendum we simply don’t know what will happen, we have some guesses in the short term but long know one has a clue what will actually happen just guesses. However all these pledges they’re a different category of thing, we can safely say that they are all utter stuff and nonsense and should be ignored. Why can we say this? Simply because neither the “Leave” nor “Remain” are the government of the day, nor will they form the government after the referendum. Whilst they may have their figures right (though that’s unlikely) neither side has any control over how the Government of the day will handle things. The day after the referendum no matter what the result, neither campaign is going to suddenly be in power so neither side can say what the government will do.

So ignore the “Pledges” and claims about what the government will do following a vote to Leave/Remain it’s all utter bollox – as it won’t be in the hands of either campaign group. All they can do is suggest possible scenarios that could happen, depending on how the rest of the world reacts and what the government of the day (which won’t be them) decides to do.